Comments on: The Papal Rock Concert

By: nate415

nate415 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:46:42 +0000

lgd

True, I should have said incapable of sin. Thanks for the correct.

By: lgd1965

lgd1965 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:59:32 +0000

Nate @ 4:46 PM “we all know that there was only one human without sin: Jesus”

Don’t forget to include Mary the Mother of God, too.

By: Lauren Ivory

Lauren Ivory — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 05:56:44 +0000

Nate, I appreciate your thoughts on hysteria. Through protests and demonstrations I can see how some people can just be caught up with protesting, for instance, and not the issue. They may know very little about the issue at hand, but just jump on the bandwagon.

And I myself experienced a little awestruck moment when I went to see DC talk in college. I didn’t know they were going to be signing autographs and I thought it was terrible! I thought a Christian band shouldn’t be into that sort of thing; I saw it as glory seeking. But there I was waiting in line to get my cd signed. And when I got up to them I got all excited and experienced a little hysteria moment. I guess we’re prone in human nature to this sometimes.

By: nate415

nate415 — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:46:35 +0000

I would explain Papal Hysteria in the same way a faithful Democrat responsds to Barack Obama, or really how anyone in America reacts with the opportunit to see a national leader in person. Whether you agree with him and the hierarchy or not, the pope is at the top of it. He is a figure of worldwide renown and especially so because of so many misunderstandings of infallibility and the office of the pope.

He does not have God’s voice whispering in his ear. He can make mistakes, just not when speaking ex cathedra on matters of faith and morals. Also – individual bishops are not, nor do they claim to be, infallible. When the College of Bishops come together to agree on a matter of faith and morals, such as a council like Vatican II, infallible teachings can occur.

Please note that infallibility is not an impetus to always be correct in every deed and action. That is impeccability (ie without sin) and we all know that there was only one human without sin: Jesus.

Sidenote – the pope goes to confession regularly – clearly not without sin!

By: Rick Beitman

Rick Beitman — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:54:25 +0000

Melange5, I had to delete your last comment as it was a violation of our Commenting Policy. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but we want friendly debate in the peaceful Spirit of Christ. Please refer to this policy for future reference.

By: joshdevin

joshdevin — Sat, 31 May 2008 15:14:16 +0000

According to Matthew 25, Jesus actually tells us that each and every person we meet is Christ Himself and should be treated accordingly. So I’m not sure it’s actually possible to overstate the extent to which God is present in every person.

And if we read the final sentence of the post as saying that “we” collectively — all of us together making up the mystical body of Christ — it’s actually quite orthodox.

By: melange5

melange5 — Fri, 30 May 2008 18:24:52 +0000

I forgot to tell you how you are partially right. God is present in every person, yes, but not to the extent that you claim.

By: melange5

melange5 — Fri, 30 May 2008 18:24:24 +0000

Well, the Pope is the Vicar of Christ, and deserves some respect, of course, but you are also partly right. To say that every person is the embodiment of God is actually a heresy. We shouldn’t even believe that the Pope is the embodiment of God, because he is human just like everyone else. I would strongly suggest being careful about this.

By: Lauren Ivory

Lauren Ivory — Fri, 30 May 2008 05:50:56 +0000

AMEN!!!! That’s about all I have to say!

You hit it on the nail and said so with words I hadn’t yet found. What’s so difficult is when we translate this difference in how we see things into a judgement of another’s faith’s validity. And it takes a lot of strength of spirit, will, maturity, etc. to listen to the stares and words of disaproval for not being so wrapped up in papacy and such.