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	<title>Comments on: What Happened to the Vision of Good Pope John?</title>
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		<title>By: onemorething08</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s a huge leap to go from Bl. Pope John XXIII&#039;s vision for the council to lambasting Pope John Paul II&#039;s defense of the faith. I see nothing in the former&#039;s writings to indicate that he wished to abrogate the doctrine of the Church; indeed, in the opening speech to the council he made it clear that its purpose was not to change doctrine as it has been handed down through the centuries, but merely how the truths of the faith are presented to the modern world (emphases mine):

&quot;The Twenty-first Ecumenical Council, which will draw upon the effective and important wealth of juridical, liturgical, apostolic, and administrative experiences, wishes to transmit the doctrine, pure and integral, without any attenuation or distortion, which throughout twenty centuries, notwithstanding difficulties and contrasts, has become the common patrimony of men. It is a patrimony not well received by all, but always a rich treasure available to men of good will.

&quot;Our duty is &lt;b&gt;not only&lt;/b&gt; to guard this precious treasure, as if we were concerned only with antiquity, but to dedicate ourselves with an earnest will and without fear to that work which our era demands of us, pursuing thus the path which the Church has followed for twenty centuries. &lt;b&gt;The salient point of this Council is not, therefore, a discussion of one article or another of the fundamental doctrine of the Church which has repeatedly been taught by the Fathers and by ancient and modern theologians&lt;/b&gt;, and which is presumed to be well known and familiar to all.

For this a Council was not necessary. But &lt;b&gt;from the renewed, serene, and tranquil adherence to all the teaching of the Church in its entirety and preciseness, as it still shines forth in the Acts of the Council of Trent and First Vatican Council, the Christian, Catholic, and apostolic spirit of the whole world expects a step forward toward a doctrinal penetration and a formation of consciousness in faithful and perfect conformity to the authentic doctrine&lt;/b&gt;, which, however, should be studied and expounded through the methods of research and through the literary forms of modern thought. &lt;b&gt;The substance of the ancient doctrine of the deposit of faith is one thing, and the way in which it is presented is another. And it is the latter that must be taken into great consideration with patience if necessary, everything being measured in the forms and proportions of a magisterium which is predominantly pastoral in character.&lt;/b&gt;&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s a huge leap to go from Bl. Pope John XXIII&#8217;s vision for the council to lambasting Pope John Paul II&#8217;s defense of the faith. I see nothing in the former&#8217;s writings to indicate that he wished to abrogate the doctrine of the Church; indeed, in the opening speech to the council he made it clear that its purpose was not to change doctrine as it has been handed down through the centuries, but merely how the truths of the faith are presented to the modern world (emphases mine):</p>
<p>&#8220;The Twenty-first Ecumenical Council, which will draw upon the effective and important wealth of juridical, liturgical, apostolic, and administrative experiences, wishes to transmit the doctrine, pure and integral, without any attenuation or distortion, which throughout twenty centuries, notwithstanding difficulties and contrasts, has become the common patrimony of men. It is a patrimony not well received by all, but always a rich treasure available to men of good will.</p>
<p>&#8220;Our duty is <b>not only</b> to guard this precious treasure, as if we were concerned only with antiquity, but to dedicate ourselves with an earnest will and without fear to that work which our era demands of us, pursuing thus the path which the Church has followed for twenty centuries. <b>The salient point of this Council is not, therefore, a discussion of one article or another of the fundamental doctrine of the Church which has repeatedly been taught by the Fathers and by ancient and modern theologians</b>, and which is presumed to be well known and familiar to all.</p>
<p>For this a Council was not necessary. But <b>from the renewed, serene, and tranquil adherence to all the teaching of the Church in its entirety and preciseness, as it still shines forth in the Acts of the Council of Trent and First Vatican Council, the Christian, Catholic, and apostolic spirit of the whole world expects a step forward toward a doctrinal penetration and a formation of consciousness in faithful and perfect conformity to the authentic doctrine</b>, which, however, should be studied and expounded through the methods of research and through the literary forms of modern thought. <b>The substance of the ancient doctrine of the deposit of faith is one thing, and the way in which it is presented is another. And it is the latter that must be taken into great consideration with patience if necessary, everything being measured in the forms and proportions of a magisterium which is predominantly pastoral in character.</b>&#8220;</p>
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