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	<title>Comments on: Forget Crucifixes: Catholic Identity Hinges On Catholic Social Teaching</title>
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		<title>By: Ben Dunlap</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Dunlap]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the complexities of the situation is that it was the European Union who imposed this decision on Italy; the Italian government was not happy about it and is in fact appealing. So I&#039;m sure there are issues of state sovereignty tied up in it all as well.

But at any rate it&#039;s tempting, for me as an American anyway, to agree with Kate Ward&#039;s opinion above. America has been an expressly secular nation since its founding and in many way that&#039;s a very good thing -- one that Pope Benedict often lauds, in fact. Crucifixes in public schools would be a scandal here in the States, and I don&#039;t think that any  Catholic would be off-base in opposing that sort of thing, here in the US. It&#039;s just not how we do church &amp; state.

But Europe is different. Most European nations were once officially Catholic, and I think some still are. For better or worse -- and I&#039;m sure it&#039;s better in some ways and worse in others -- that&#039;s their cultural heritage. So it&#039;s not such a slam-dunk to say, in Europe, that crucifixes should be removed from public schoolrooms. And for the European Union to force a member nation to remove its schoolroom crucifixes  -- that has a cultural significance that&#039;s probably unimaginable for Americans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the complexities of the situation is that it was the European Union who imposed this decision on Italy; the Italian government was not happy about it and is in fact appealing. So I&#8217;m sure there are issues of state sovereignty tied up in it all as well.</p>
<p>But at any rate it&#8217;s tempting, for me as an American anyway, to agree with Kate Ward&#8217;s opinion above. America has been an expressly secular nation since its founding and in many way that&#8217;s a very good thing &#8212; one that Pope Benedict often lauds, in fact. Crucifixes in public schools would be a scandal here in the States, and I don&#8217;t think that any  Catholic would be off-base in opposing that sort of thing, here in the US. It&#8217;s just not how we do church &amp; state.</p>
<p>But Europe is different. Most European nations were once officially Catholic, and I think some still are. For better or worse &#8212; and I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s better in some ways and worse in others &#8212; that&#8217;s their cultural heritage. So it&#8217;s not such a slam-dunk to say, in Europe, that crucifixes should be removed from public schoolrooms. And for the European Union to force a member nation to remove its schoolroom crucifixes  &#8212; that has a cultural significance that&#8217;s probably unimaginable for Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate Ward]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 04:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Disappointing that His Holiness would see the removal of crucifixes in &lt;i&gt;public schools&lt;/i&gt; as an assault on Catholicism. I think our faith appears at its best when we&#039;re working in genuine pluralism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disappointing that His Holiness would see the removal of crucifixes in <i>public schools</i> as an assault on Catholicism. I think our faith appears at its best when we&#8217;re working in genuine pluralism.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Dunlap</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Dunlap]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 04:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Jesus did not worry about the removal of holy symbols, correct liturgical procedures, and one’s personal sex life.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;ve always had the sense that Jesus is very concerned about the quality of our love for God and one another. Holy symbols and our approach to the public prayer of the Church have a lot to do with our love of God -- and sex has a lot to do with our love for one another. So I&#039;m not sure how to understand your statement.

The social teaching of the Church is enormously important. So is the Church&#039;s sexual morality, and her liturgical theology. We need all of it, and my sense is that if we neglect /any/ part of the fullness of our faith, the rest suffers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Jesus did not worry about the removal of holy symbols, correct liturgical procedures, and one’s personal sex life.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve always had the sense that Jesus is very concerned about the quality of our love for God and one another. Holy symbols and our approach to the public prayer of the Church have a lot to do with our love of God &#8212; and sex has a lot to do with our love for one another. So I&#8217;m not sure how to understand your statement.</p>
<p>The social teaching of the Church is enormously important. So is the Church&#8217;s sexual morality, and her liturgical theology. We need all of it, and my sense is that if we neglect /any/ part of the fullness of our faith, the rest suffers.</p>
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		<title>By: amolibri</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[amolibri]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[César, this piece is great.  Groups like PaxChristi are helping to keep the foundational message of Catholicism alive.  (thank you Ryan)  Have a blessed Thanksgiving.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>César, this piece is great.  Groups like PaxChristi are helping to keep the foundational message of Catholicism alive.  (thank you Ryan)  Have a blessed Thanksgiving.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Hoffmann</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan Hoffmann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I very much enjoyed this.  Well articulated and points to what (hopefully) is foundational in Catholicism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I very much enjoyed this.  Well articulated and points to what (hopefully) is foundational in Catholicism.</p>
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